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PALLADIUM 01-07-2010 03:43 AM

ADL Assaults 2nd Amendment Rights
 
ADL Urges Supreme Court to Ensure States' Right to Keep Firearms Out of Hands of Extremists

http://www.adl.org/PresRele/SupremeCourt_33/5684_33.htm

New York, NY, January 6, 2010 � In a brief detailing the "serious threat" of armed violence by extremists and extremist groups, the Anti-Defamation League (ADL) today urged the U.S. Supreme Court to ensure that states retain the right to reasonably regulate the possession of firearms by those who practice and preach racial and ethnic violence.

"We have placed the problem of armed extremism squarely before the high court," said Abraham H. Foxman, ADL National Director. "Racist and anti-government extremists often have an obsessive fascination with firearms and have shown a willingness to engage in acts of shocking and often deadly violence. We urge the Supreme Court to ensure that cities and states retain the latitude they need to keep guns out of the hands of extremists, terrorists, and violent bigots."

ADL's "friend of the court" brief in McDonald v. City of Chicago points to the long history of gun violence by anti-government and racist extremists. The brief describes three such examples in detail: the June 2009 shooting at the U.S. Holocaust Memorial Museum in Washington, DC, by avowed anti-Semite and white supremacist James Von Brunn (an incident which left a security guard dead); the April 2000 shooting spree in Pittsburgh by white supremacist Richard Baumhammers (which left five dead); and the deadly standoffs in Waco, Texas in 1993 and Ruby Ridge, Idaho in 1992.

McDonald v. City of Chicago focuses on whether the Second Amendment to the U.S. Constitution prohibits most regulation of firearms by cities and states.

ADL has long supported the reasonable regulation of firearms, particularly when it comes to the possession of weapons by extremists.

"Extremists and those who commit hate crimes pose a serious threat to the safety of the general public and, more specifically, to the members of the discrete racial, ethnic and religious groups who often become their targets," reads the ADL brief. "Armed extremism leads to violent extremism with profoundly unsettling frequency and profoundly tragic results."

The League's brief was prepared by Leonard M. Niehoff and Martin E. Karlinsky of the law firm Butzel Long.

leadfoot 01-07-2010 05:01 AM

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It's too bad they don't remember that "members of the discrete racial, ethnic and religious groups" often become the targets of the state after guns are removed.

SWRichmond 01-07-2010 07:01 AM

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"...and the deadly standoffs in Waco, Texas in 1993 and Ruby Ridge, Idaho in 1992"


Both of which were started by the government, as actions against private citizens, and which resulted in more civilian deaths than "LE" deaths.

I'd like to personally thank the ADL for pointing out that government is the most extremist, dangerous and violent organization on earth.

Edit: Oh, and government is historically the most violently anti-semitic. Is ADL a bunch of ****ing morons?

woody 01-07-2010 07:21 AM

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The ADL can start with this racist extremist group.

:bawling:

gbgunner 01-07-2010 07:25 AM

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Damn. An alert on the JPFO page says Aaron Zelman was hospitalized yesterday.

Mantokir 01-07-2010 07:44 AM

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So when do the Black Panthers have to give up they're guns?

hoarder 01-07-2010 08:13 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by PALLADIUM (Post 2112876)
extremists and extremist groups

Who defines what is "extremist"? Mass media defines what is mainstream and what is extremist. Hmmmmmm. So who owns mass media?

Mill Man 01-07-2010 09:10 PM

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We aren't the "extremists". They are.

SLV>GLD 01-07-2010 09:28 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by SWRichmond (Post 2112973)
"...and the deadly standoffs in Waco, Texas in 1993 and Ruby Ridge, Idaho in 1992"


Both of which were started by the government, as actions against private citizens, and which resulted in more civilian deaths than "LE" deaths.

I'd like to personally thank the ADL for pointing out that government is the most extremist, dangerous and violent organization on earth.

Edit: Oh, and government is historically the most violently anti-semitic. Is ADL a bunch of ****ing morons?

You see, those 2 examples are possibly the best cases upon which to build a pro-gun, anti-ATF argument. By putting those cases in an anti-gun pro-control context they marginalize the other side's future prospects.

State of Jefferson 01-07-2010 09:37 PM

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RICO (acronym). Short for: "Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organization." Example: Anti-Defamation League.

goldmonkey 01-07-2010 10:02 PM

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http://i46.tinypic.com/jfc5qb.jpg

Haltiat 01-07-2010 11:02 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Mill Man (Post 2114282)
We aren't the "extremists". They are.

That's the truth.

Tallinthesaddle 01-08-2010 05:51 PM

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Add PETA to that list and ALF.


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